Inner Green Deal Podcast

Our podcast on climate change, sustainability and green transformation

In the Inner Green Deal podcast by Awaris climate activists from science, politics and society talk about what drives them.

Let’s assume that empathy, awareness or curiosity are the drivers of sustainable action – how would that impact our environment? If we cultivate new behavior patterns through these inner qualities – what effects could this have on other people, our society and the issue of sustainability?

It is questions such as these that are addressed in our Inner Green Deal Podcast where changemakers, individuals from society and politics who are engaged in sustainability as well as international leaders share their perspectives and experiences.

  • Listen to the first series and the current episodes of the new series here!
  • Follow the exciting interviews with leading personalities from research and the EU, social entrepreneurship and society, NGOs and the high-tech industry!
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Improving climate preservation through better collaboration? Take a listen!

Liane Stephan, co-founder of Awaris, and Jeroen Janss, EU Director for Awaris, are the founders of the Inner Green Deal Initiative. They host the first instalment of the podcast here.

In this first episode they explore the following central issues:

  • Does striving for climate preservation have a profoundly human dimension?
  • Once we know this dimension, what changes, what can we hope for?
  • What does the mindset and action we so urgently need now look like?
Get inspired! And join in! If you’d like to contribute to our podcast write to Jeroen Janss!

Season 02 | Episode 02

10 November 2021 – moderated by Jeroen Janss

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02 | How can we all be climate diplomats?

Jeroen and Tom welcome Marcel Beukeboom and explore the world of climate diplomacy, looking back on Marcel’s five year term as the Dutch Climate Envoy. With COP26 unfolding, Marcel gives us context and helps us to understand what really goes on inside the halls of the UN Climate Conferences but also to how this relates to our actions and daily lifes as citizens, and how we all can be climate diplomats.

Reflective questions for this episode:

If you were touched by what Marcel shared and if you would like to put your inspiration into practice, we invite you to reflect on these questions over the course of this week:

  • How do our daily habits, the way we consume and the way we communicate on social media, shape the context in which politicians are embolded to take pro-environmental decisions – or actually hesitate to do so, believing that this does not reflect “the will of the people”?
  • What is it in our daily life or in our leadership role that we can do to become a climate diplomate and speak up for the environment?

If you are curious about the extent to which citizens support climate policy, you may find the following EU surveys helpful:

Guest: Marcel Beukeboom

Season 02 | Episode 01

03 November 2021 – moderated Tom Weimann

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01 | How can we listen to all the voices

In this first episode of season 02, Tom welcomes Dianne Dain, Chief Innovation Officer of the World Humanitarian Forum and founder of COPxx. The episode is our first out of three covering the UN Climate Change Conference COP26.

With her impressive track record in technology, innovation and humanitarian efforts, Dianne gives us insights on how important a deep connection to nature, reciprocity and hopeful action are when negotiating climate action on an international level. She also gives us guidance on the question: How can we listen to all the voices, including those of women, children and indigenous people?

Guest: Dianne Dain

Season 02 | Introduction

03 November 2021 – moderated Jeroen Janss and Tom Weimann

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Intro | Season 02 Introduction

In this intro episode to season 02, Jeroen welcomes Tom as the new host for this season. Together they reflect on releasing the podcast during the UN Climate Change Conference COP26 in Glasgow. They also hint at the changes we will see in the course of season 02.

Tom Weimann

Season 01 | Episode 08 | Is sustainability realistic?

25 November 2020 – moderated by Liane Stephan

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08 | Is sustainability realistic?

Liane presents Fernando García Ferreiro with some tough questions: Is it realistic to expect the eight billion people on this planet to live more sustainably? Or do we have to bury some of our hopes and see what we can still save?

Fernando García Ferreiro is the former Director of Health and Wellbeing at the EU Commission. Today, in retirement, he works as a process mediator.

Liane questions Fernando García Ferreiro about the state of our planet and whether sustainability is a realistic aim.

Should we hold on to the belief that with 8 billion people on this planet we can live in a sustainable way – or should we start thinking about the possibility that this may not be realistic – and start reflecting on what is truly worth saving, what we need to let go of and what we need to come to terms with?

Fernando is the former Director of Health and Wellbeing at the European Commission. While not a scientist he is one of the most informed citizens I know. Since he retired two years ago, he has been attending and facilitating retreats where he explores how we relate to nature.

In this podcast he raises some tough questions but also offers answers that not only present a more realistic future but also a future that is more enjoyable and in connection with ourselves and with nature.

Guest: Fernando García Ferreiro

Season 01 | Episode 07 | Is the green transition really driven by technology?

18 November 2020 – moderated by Liane Stephan

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07 | Will technology truly act as an accelerator of the green transition?

Which role do technologies play in the green transition? Parham Antonio Vasaiely, CEO of the technology company APTIV, a member of the UN Advisory Panel on Technology and Innovation, and an expert on mindfulness, is best qualified to answer this question.

In this episode Liane talks to Parham Antonio Vasaiely about the role of technology in the green transition.

Parham is the Global director for Advanced Safety and Autonomous Driving at a large technology company. In addition, Parham is a Global Advisory Board Member to the United Nations on the topic of technology and innovation.

He is also the former Chair of the Private Sector and Workplace charter of the British All-Party Parliamentary Group on Mindfulness.

Liane asks Parham about the role of technology in the green transition and what is a helpful mindset given today’s complex and interconnected economy.

I highly recommend listening to Parham’s responses as he talks about his own journey, and what has helped him broaden his perspective and be more effective as a leader.

Guest: Parham Antonio Vasaiely

Season 01 | Episode 06 | Ready for a green sustainable career?

11 November 2020 – moderated by Jeroen Janss

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06 | Are you ready for a green career?

The environmental lawyer Louise Tideman is Sponsorship Manager at the non-governmental organization WeForest. Why has she chosen this career? Which obstacles did she have to overcome?

Louise Tideman works at the NGO “WeForest”. We invite her to talk about what it takes for a young person to have impact in purpose-driven organizations that are dominated by truly committed people with obviously more skills and experience than those starting out.

What obstacles did she have to overcome and what lessons did she learn?

As you can probably tell from the interview, it was a joy to meet Louise as she was not only one of the friendliest people I have ever met – but also one of those rare persons that are willing to share their insecurities and the ways to overcome them.

Enjoy listening to Louise!

Season 01 | Episode 05 | What will happen to sustainability should Trump return?

04 November 2020 – moderated by Jeroen Janss

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05 | What if Trump wins again?

Bryan Welch, a publisher on the issue of sustainability and CEO of tells us how millions of people in the deeply divided US have discovered the power of compassion – an important factor in politics too.

In this special episode, I talk to Bryan Welch, leading publisher on sustainability, CEO of and a committed rancher from Kansas.

I question Bryan on how he feels about the possibility of Donald Trump winning and what a contested election might mean for America. Knowing the system from the inside he points to the divisions that have deepened over the years as well as the media and vested interest groups that have played a role in this process.

Yet despite the challenging outlook, Bryan also observes many positive developments and talks about the millions of people that discover the power of compassion – a quality that he sees not only as distinctively human and grounding but also as critical at a time of societal division, environmental mass extinction and climate change.

With that, take a deep breath and listen to the wisdom Bryan shares while the reality of the US elections slowly unfolds.

Season 01 | Episode 04 | Toiling for a better climate

28 October 2020 – moderated by Jeroen Janss

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04 | From Färm to fork: What is changing?

The cofounder of the Färm organic cooperative, Lionel Wauters, reveals the role of food production in the green transition and talks about what makes Färm so successful.

In this episode I speak with Lionel Wauters, co-founder and chairman of Färm, a group of organic food stores. I ask him about the role of food in the green transition and the secret behind the success of Färm.

Lionel’s answers may surprise you, in particular when he talks about the organization behind Färm and the way Färm has invited producers such as farmers, employees and other stakeholders to join their Board and take decisions together.

It is an inspiring model, particularly at a time when Europe is debating the future of agriculture and struggling to agree on the substantial amount of change that needs to happen in the interest of all stakeholders – including our planet. I am sure you will be intrigued by Lionel and think of this episode next time you enter a food store.

Season 01 | Episode 03 | how can the right mindset contribute to preserving the climate?

21 October 2020 – moderated by Liane Stephan

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03 | What role do mindsets play in activating sustainable development and climate action?

Professor Christine Wamsler from Sweden is an expert on sustainable development, risk management and adaptation to the consequences of climate change. Christine provides insights into the way mindfulness and empathy are connected with prosocial behavior and a commitment to preserve the climate.

Christine Wamsler is Professor at Lund University Center for Sustainability Studies in Sweden. She is at the forefront of research on the human qualities that are essential for sustainable climate action and has over 20 years of experience working in sustainable development, risk reduction and climate adaptation.

She has led many international projects and has published more than 200 academic papers, articles and books.

But beyond the academic credentials, Christine is a remarkable person. Having been on the ground in areas struck by hurricanes and other extreme weather events, Christine’s interest and understanding of human behavior is profound.

From the conversation with Christine you will get an unusual amount of insight into how our inner qualities – such as awareness, openness and compassion – relate to pro-social behavior and climate action in particular.

With this, let’s listen to Christine and her profoundly human vision of climate action.

Season 01 | Episode 02 | How does the EU Green Deal impact our climate and life?

14 October 2020 – moderated by Jeroen Janss

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02 | How will the European Green Deal change our lives?

Bernd Biervert, Head of Unit at the EU Directorate for Research and Innovation, reports on what we may expect from the Green Deal. He also speaks about the courage and stamina needed to bring about systemic change.

Bernd Biervert is Head of Unit at the European Commissions’ Research & Innovation Directorate. I interview Bernd about the scope of the European Green Deal and what we can expect over the next five to ten years.

Bernd’s replies will give you a glimpse of what it takes to bring about change at societal level – a fascinating topic.

In the media there is a tendency to glorify entrepreneurs who address specific needs, some of which are social in nature, which is of course wonderful. However, it’s becoming increasingly clear that we need large-scale systemic change to address systemic problems.

And this is the area in which the European Commission is active. The Commission initiates laws, regulations and fiscal policies that drive systemic change across the Continent. The question is, can it do so fast enough and can it convince leaders of its member states to make the necessary changes?

Listen to Bernd as he talks about the vision, the courage and the endurance that is needed to drive systemic change.

Guest: Bernd Biervert

Season 01 | Episode 01 | Can we expect a climate revolution from the young?

08 October 2020 – moderated by Jeroen Janss

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01 | Can we expect a revolution from the young?

Matthew Pye is a philosophy teacher as well as a climate activist. Matthew’s work reveals what drives people – also and especially when activism involves confrontation and creating discomfort.

Matthew Pye is an author, philosophy teacher and founder of a number of Climate Action Initiatives working at the Schola Europaea in Brussels. I interview Matthew about the role young people have and how their impact is evolving.

This is a special episode: not just because it is the first in a new series but because Matthew describes the inner dimension of Climate Action so clearly.

Why it pays to go beyond the rhetoric and why uncovering the truth, not just the facts but what we feel deep down to be right and true, ultimately makes the difference and gives us the drive and the courage to confront and change.

Share the excitement as Matthew shares his vision and kicks off the Inner Green Deal Podcast.

Guest: Matthey Pye

The Inner Green Deal Initiative: mental strength for more climate protection

Our Inner Green Deal Initiative comprises short and long-term programs for more sustainability within organizations and beyond. Those programs are geared towards leaders and their teams in companies and institutions, at EU level, for instance. The goal is to anchor sustainability in both mindset and behavior, and to create a community of like-minded and equally committed people, to kickstart the right actions, motivating many others.

Our process mediators will accompany you along the way, sharing their profound expertise in systemic change, neuroscience and leadership.